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Bestselling author Michael Covel is the host of Trend Following Radio with 10+ million listens. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trading -- all passionately explored and debated. Guests include Nobel Prize winners: Robert Aumann, Angus Deaton, Daniel Kahneman, Oliver Hart, Harry Markowitz & Vernon Smith. More guests: Jack Canfield, Howard Marks, James Altucher, Dan Ariely, Jean-Philippe Bouchaud, Kathleen Eisenhardt, Marc Faber, Tim Ferriss, Jason Fried, Gerd Gigerenzer, Larry Hite, Sally Hogshead, Ryan Holiday, Jack Horner, Ewan Kirk, Steven Kotler, Michael Mauboussin, Tucker Max, Barry Ritholtz, Jim Rogers, Jack Schwager, Ed Seykota, Philip Tetlock & Walter Williams.

Jun 21, 2012

My guest today is Scott Patterson, an American financial journalist and bestselling author. Patterson has made a career of reporting the subterranean inner-workings of the markets, writing for the Wall Street Journal, Rolling Stone, and Mother Earth News. His first book, The Quants: How a New Breed of Math Whizzes Conquered Wall Street and Nearly Destroyed It, was released in 2010.

The topic is his book Dark Pools: High-Speed Traders, A.I. Bandits, and the Threat to the Global Financial System.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Trace the history of high speed trading and electronic communication networks (ECNs) back to Josh Levine, who founded Island, the computer system that led to the high frequency trading we see today
  • Technological revolution behind Island, and how its transparency led to dark pools - opaque markets where bids and offers are not made public
  • Patterson goes on to propose that the entire market has gone dark
  • The relation of dark pools to the flash crash
  • The regulation of dark pools
  • How the real New York Stock Exchange is in a data center in the countryside of New Jersey

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