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Bestselling author Michael Covel is the host of Trend Following Radio with 10+ million listens. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trading -- all passionately explored and debated. Guests include Nobel Prize winners: Robert Aumann, Angus Deaton, Daniel Kahneman, Oliver Hart, Harry Markowitz & Vernon Smith. More guests: Jack Canfield, Howard Marks, James Altucher, Dan Ariely, Jean-Philippe Bouchaud, Kathleen Eisenhardt, Marc Faber, Tim Ferriss, Jason Fried, Gerd Gigerenzer, Larry Hite, Sally Hogshead, Ryan Holiday, Jack Horner, Ewan Kirk, Steven Kotler, Michael Mauboussin, Tucker Max, Barry Ritholtz, Jim Rogers, Jack Schwager, Ed Seykota, Philip Tetlock & Walter Williams.

Jul 20, 2014

My guest today is Megan McArdle, a Bloomberg View columnist who writes on economics, business and public policy. She founded the blog “Asymmetrical Information”.

The topic is her book The Up Side of Down: Why Failing Well Is the Key to Success.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • “Trophy kids” and taking the monkey bars away
  • The idea of a regulator out there trying to guarantee our safety
  • Why the companies that make it aren’t the ones with the best strategic plan–it’s the ones that execute (and fail well)
  • The power of experimentation
  • Nobel winner Vernon Smith and experimentation
  • The idea of learning in crisis
  • How sunk costs are difficult for a large part of the population to grasp
  • Van Halen, errors, and M&M’s
  • Normative error
  • Small, manageable risks
  • Forager morality vs. farmer morality
  • A story about Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC)

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